We Bought a House….In This Market !?!

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Some news in the Shirts household:  We bought a house.

After selling our last house in 2019 and enjoying the low stress lifestyle of renting for three years, we were thrust back into the housing market courtesy of our landlord’s money problems.   The timing on this low stress decision was unfortunate, the housing market decided to make a decade plus of gains, but we are happy we took our time to figure out exactly what we wanted.

Where did we buy?

After spending three years in the Charleston, SC area, we decided to head south and rent a furnished place on the central east coast of Florida.   A number of things appealed about this area, including better winter weather, a more reasonable housing market, better ACA insurance (national network!), and no state income taxes.   The housing market ran away in Charleston, specifically with the AirBNB impact on the beach islands, to where our dream of living near the water was not attainable there.   Commuting twenty minutes in traffic to almost anything was not our idea of enjoyment in retirement.   Instead we focused on an area with +/- $500,000 housing with almost all the inventory sitting above the coastal flood zone.   The no state income tax is an added benefit. We’re currently completing some larger Roth IRA conversions and not giving away an additional 6% to 7% to the state of South Carolina will be nice.  

Not a bad morning view

What is / was the market like?

The housing market peaked in this area of Florida in March / April of 2022, then started its slow process back to normal.  This process back to normal mostly meant the high quality houses at market prices still sold on opening weekend, but a good portion of the inventory with flaws in the property was still trying to get April of 2022 prices.   This started the slow and arduous process of making plenty of offers at 90% of asking price, then to be told “oh no, we’ll never take an offer that low”, and the house sitting around for 45-60 days before the seller and their real estate accepted reality and accepted an offer in that range.   

We were open to many options:  Townhouses, single family homes, renovation projects, and/or duplexes.  There were pros and cons to all the options and inventory was thin, so we were open and flexible.   One unexpected challenge was unserious sellers, landlords who owned a rental house or duplex would put it up for sale, ignore / reject a reasonable offer made, then just let the house sit for 60-90 days before pulling it off the market.   This caused thirty active listings in our target area to be more like ten to fifteen at any given point.  We figured out Florida has property tax rules that are similar to Prop 13 and people who’ve owned their houses for 20+ years have minimal carrying costs.

We got one house under contract after seven different offers.  This would have been a renovation project, but the seller rejected the concessions we found in inspection.  Unfortunately, without those concessions, our renovation budget + purchase price would have been way above the comparables and we had to part ways.   (That seller pulled the house off market, did the repairs themselves, and relisted the house only to have it continue to sit).   Around the time that happened, the “non-QM” mortgage market imploded.  Non-QM loans are known as non-conforming loans, or mortgages that aren’t written to Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac standards.   Since we’re early retirees, we could only get $150,000 – $250,000 in a loan under the qualifying mortgage rules, but we were approved for up to $500,000 in a non-QM loan based on our net worth / total assets.   When we got the renovation project under contract, the lender came back to us and said the non-QM loan was now going to be at a 8.875% rate and a 1% up front fee.   That wasn’t going to work for us.

What did we end up buying?

We landed on a deeded half duplex located 150 yds from the ocean.   We sacrificed one bedroom and bought a 2/2 in order to get a 1980s build that was mostly renovated with an A+ location.   This size property with an attached two car garage, screened in porch, and a lighted crosswalk to the beach was a rare find.   We ended up offering cash for around the asking price and won the deal based on a flexible closing timeline.  The 20+ year owner needed time to get all of his stuff/clutter out plus find a new place.  
I didn’t think we’d be selling off most of our taxable portfolio to buy a property, but the place would also work well as a rental if we ever got the itch to move again.   After the experience of briefly *not* having a place to live, I can’t see us selling this place in the next thirty years.  

What were the financial considerations?

This wouldn’t be a finance blog without going through the numbers behind the decision.   These are estimated since our total costs aren’t finalized yet, we’re still working through a few things that are on our list of improvements:

Purchase Price + Improvements:   $440,000. We estimate once were done with the small things that need work, that’s the total cost we’ll have in the property.

Annual Costs:  $13,000/year. Insurance, Taxes, and Maintenance.

Insurance:  $4,000/yr.   Property insurance is expensive in Florida due to storm risks, but the costs are currently in flux as the state modernizes some rules around assignment of benefits and plaintiff attorney fees that have wrecked the state’s insurance market.   They also allow the mutual insurance companies (ie State Farm) to redline certain zip codes and still write in other parts of the state, driving my costs up on the beach island.  Hopefully this number comes down closer to the national average over time.

Taxes:  $5,000/yr (?).   The current owner enjoyed a tax bill of just under $1,000/year thanks to Florida’s property tax laws capping annual increases to the lower of 3% or the Consumer Price Index.   We’re guessing our new tax bill will come in around $5,000.   Not bad considering our bill was over $15,000 for a 3bd house in our final year in Texas.

Maintenance:  $4,000/year.   I expect normal maintenance and capital expenditures to run around this amount.  The biggest expense in Florida and specifically on the beach islands is the outdoor A/C units.   They run for the most part of 12 months out the year and the salty air attacks its components.  

What would it cost to rent something comparable?

We found the rental market here to be similar to Charleston with rates between $2,900 to $3,500/mo.   I’d put this property in the middle of that range, it would get less as a 2bd vs 3bd but garner a premium for being renovated plus having a two car garage and an A+ location.   The reality is we just couldn’t find something comparable to rent if we wanted (and we looked hard), but I’ll put this value at $3,250/mo, or $39,000/year.

So what is the implied return?  5.91%

We essentially converted $440,000 in stocks and bonds into personal real estate for an implied return of 5.91%.   This is a relatively low risk return since it replaces cash outflow in rent and this return isn’t subject to taxes like capital gains, dividends, or interest would be.  

What about the housing market?

Are you worried about the housing market?   Meh  

Do I think the housing market has issues?   Yes.   

Will it bother me?  I’ll get over it.

I think the nation’s housing market has issues.   One group of people shouts “shortages!” while another group shouts “bubble!”.  My opinion is that the answer is somewhere in between.

I find it hard to believe there was suddenly a housing shortage that started in August 2020 and continued until March of 2022.  The housing market was slow in 2019, even in desirable areas.  I sold a house and was looking for another one in two of the most economically vibrant areas of the country and things were slow, even with record low unemployment.

Things did change in 2020, including:

  • Record low interest rates and money printing by the Federal Reserve through purchasing mortgage backed securities, driving rates far below market
  • A strange demographic squeeze thanks to birth rates during World War 2 and the echo boomers between 1982 and 1994.
  • The demand for bedrooms rapidly increasing due to work from home
  • The ability for a large portion of the population to relocate all at once
  • Every middle manager suddenly deprived of in-office busy work decided they wanted to be a real estate investor / flipper / AirBNB operator

What will happen?   Generally I just don’t care.  The house we bought could fall 30% in value and the  dent in our net worth would be minor.  We bought the house because we needed a place to live, liked it, and we could afford it.

Now had I seen this coming or accurately predicted the market? I would have held on to house #3 and #4 as a rental unit then sold them both in early 2022 and enjoyed an extra half a million in our net worth.   But if I could also go back and play the time machine game, I’d probably be making leveraged bets in both directions on Tesla stock instead of real estate….

If I were forced to make a prediction on the housing market, I’d expect us to see an early 1990s style housing correction.   During that time, the country saw the following:

  • +/-5% Inflation
  • Substantial reduction in the number of houses built (and a recession for anyone who’s income was dependent on real estate transactions)
  • Minimal price changes.

It’s feasible that the correction back to trendline looks like a 5-15% drop from March of 2022 prices followed by five years of flat prices while inflation catches up.  

The real risk in this cycle will be with multifamily and rental property investors, specifically in markets with significant additional supply.  The country is building a record number of apartment units, concentrated in the sunbelt markets, against the backdrop of a shrinking 16-25 yr old demographic.  There’s a handful of major markets that are going to add 10-12% to their total apartment supply in the next year.  That will impact both vacancy and rental rates while helping affordability.

Single family housing, and specifically owner occupied single family housing, will likely not be hurt as bad. The majority of homes in this country are either owned outright (40%) or have sub 4% financing in place.   I’d expect most people to stay put due to an existing low interest rate, creating a slog of a market between limited sellers anchored on 2022 prices with limited buyers able to afford 2022 prices at market interest rates.   This scenario is mostly bad only for those who earn a living off real estate transactions, especially if rental rates ease due to overbuilding.  There one exception to this will be single family housing in markets with a higher percentage of 2nd homes / AirBNB. Vacation areas typically do worse in a recession and the hospitality business is hurt from the simultaneous decline in both rates and occupancy.   

Wrapping Up

I’ve been on both sides of the rent vs buy argument as a financial decision, but ultimately settled on purchasing this place as a lifestyle, control, and risk management decision.   I’m past the point in my life where I want a landlord’s problem to become my problem) and we now own a beach property that (provided mother nature cooperates) we’ll always control.  It has the added benefit that ownership is a hedge against inflation. If rental costs were to go parabolic again, we aren’t forced to absorb those costs. The implied return is 5% with some inflation protection when we only need a 4% return after inflation as an early retiree, so we also viewed this as a a risk management decision.

21 Replies to “We Bought a House….In This Market !?!”

  1. Thanks for sharing the article about your recent home buying experience in FLA. I’ve been considering a similar move in looking at St. Augustine and areas south. I wanted to see what towns were within your scope with the criteria that you set (price, above coastal flood zone)


    1. I’ll send an email, the response is longer than I’d want to try to fit in the comments section

  2. Congrats! 5.9% implicit rental yield (after costs) is nice. That would be a real, inflation-adjusted yield if you assume that both rent and costs will rise about in line with CPI. Probably one of the best retirement investments you can make.

    1. I think you were responsible for how I looked at just buying it outright and if a mortgage made sense at these rates

  3. Great writeup – love getting your thoughts as usual. Congrats on closing the deal!

    Any thoughts on at what rate a mortgage would be worthwhile? After reading Big ERN’s analysis of mortgages I was firmly converted to the thinking that a mortgage is an unacceptable risk when living off one’s portfolio. However, your side hustle cash flow does shift that analysis substantially.

    Are you at all worried about depleting your after-tax portfolio substantially?

    Also amazing to consider those rental rates in a place that’s been as historically cheap as SC, it’s just shocking! Makes me feel better about my humble little SoCal house that I bought ten years ago, the carry costs are negligible.

    Hope you get some decent waves soon, we just had an awesome run of overhead surf with more on the way.

    1. I think it would make financial sense to take on some debt and boost our liquidity if the mortgage rate drops below 4%.

      It’ll probably depend on a few other things at the time, like our likelihood to move and rent this and what alternate uses of that cash look like. Realistically once the net cost of debt moves below the implied yield, the odds are in your favor in taking on debt.

      Great to hear about the run of swell! Our coastline got bashed badly by the back to back hurricanes in late September and early November, it’s moved so much sand and beach around, plus accesses being closed, it’s like learning to surf a new location. All the accesses should be rebuilt by the end of February, just in time to get out of a wetsuit.

  4. Congrats on the new home! We’re still house hunting unfortunately. Nothing but junk I would never buy for sale right. Oh well, it’s good to see some folks making real estate progress though!

    1. That was the biggest problem we faced. The “total listings” statistic is skewed because there are plenty of houses with unserious sellers or will never sell retail and just need to be wholesaled to a flipper instead of a market listing with an agent.

    2. The low inventory has been a challenge. On the surface it looks like inventory is half of what it was in 2019, but over half of what’s listed have completely unserious sellers. They list a house at a price it can’t sell for, leave it on there for 90 days, then pull the listing. I don’t get it.

      We got lucky, two houses that met our criteria both hit at once. One was reasonably priced and we could make a cash offer with a flexible close to give the seller time to find the next house. It worked well.

      Best of luck in your continued search!

  5. Good Morning, awesome article and I’m in a similar position on several of the dimensions you highlighted in your analysis. Quick question – What was the process/platform you utilized to find a non-qualifying home loan? Did you need to shop two separate loans, 1 for the purchase and 1 for the renovations? Thanks again for continuing to guide us early retirees.

    1. I spent a bunch of time searching on the mortgage side. Essentially it came down to two options:

      – A smaller bank that has a mortgage shop that’ll make some small exceptions to the debt to income and do an in-house product on a 5year ARM
      – Large mortgage company that offers / securitizes non-QM loans, like Angel Oak Mortgage

      The problem is there’s no buyers on the other side of non-QM loans after August, so the second option has basically evaporated.

      Once you buy, the guidelines become more flexible. Regulators scrutinize a “purchase money loan” far more than a home equity line of credit. If you’re an early retiree, just take whatever small amount you can get from a community bank to get the property, then get a home equity line on it after the fact to help with renovations and expect to need to leave 35% to 40% equity into the deal.

  6. I’d love to hear more about your search area and ultimate (general) purchase location as well. We did some casual looking at the top of the market and want to potentially do some more serious looking!

  7. We bought a condo in Bonita Springs FL in 2020 to be used as an Air B&B and its been great. It’s a place we’d like to spend a significant amount of time when we retire in about 6 years. Sounds like you found a gem of a place to live, especially being so close to the beach, thats fantastic!

  8. congratulations, on your new home! I know you spent some time looking around for different places and had some lockdowns, but I’m glad you didn’t let this market hold you back sometimes you just have to live life regardless of the situation in front of you.

    In the long run, today’s market, probably will just be a blip on the charts..

  9. I live on the beach in NC, just a thought, build a small wooden wall in front of your AC units, that will protect them from the wind blown sand, and then rig a irrigation sprinkler head above them, and pointed at them and put it on a timer to run for a few minutes, twice a day, that should double the life space of those AC untis.

  10. Congratulations on your home buy. So exciting to live near the beach. I live in the Tampa area, I have owned my home for a really long time. Looking to relocate, are you still willing to share your criteria as described above? I would really appreciate your insight, thanks so much for sharing your journey!

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